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SUPERCHARGE YEEHAA
« on: May 18, 2018, 06:58:01 PM »
Universal Electric Turbo Supercharger thrust motorcycle air intake kit.
Well I have been wanting little extra go for my gc190 mokai to get up bigger rapids and to outrun the odd rogue wave,this maybe answer.
Can buy off ebay world wide whether you have Honda robin or Subaru these look promising I shall certainly be trying for sure.
have been looking at many engineering  fixes for the Honda then stood back and looked at big picture have already solved engine power loss due over heating through cold air intake air venting rear of air intake for better airflow free flow exhaust gx 200 no.72 fuel jet and higher grade higher temp 10w60 oil the 10 relates to viscosity or thickness of oil and the 60 relates to higher temperature lubrication of the upper cylinder head also I use nana energizer oil additive for small engines.Thought build piston balance conrod and lighten etc.
Then i thought air scoop then supercharge.
Researched for5hours and the universal electric supercharger for small engines is the bees knees.
Cannot see any logical reason it wont work for me as only want bit more pace to attack bigger rapids although honda has no electrics for short bursts small battery probly do i go for a litium starter battery well its been fun i let ya know how it goes in couple of months gotta order it yet hahaha.  ;)
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Re: SUPERCHARGE YEEHAA
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2018, 07:22:55 PM »
Whether electric, engine driven, or exhaust driven, a supercharger requires a carburetor that is able to sense boost and add additional fuel. Otherwise you are just forcing more air in and the engine will run lean, and make less power. Will be interesting to see what you do to address that. It's a neat idea if you can make it work. Keep us posted.  \./8
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2018, 10:46:50 PM »
Hey there Tom, supercharger or blowers when sealed and running in excess of 6 lb thrust require additional sensors when pushing motors to extremes howevever when lowing additional air into motors at lower pressure say 3-4lb does increase air fuel mix as I am running larger fuel jet to lean  wont be problem as short duration bursts are all I need,
.Easy to buy and plumb in kits many available or you can use smog pumps and build your own,will only enhance  performance of engines not damage or destroy, imagine your motor boosted wow 20mph mokai what fun.
Also there are turbo units that can be fitted to exhaust pipes boosted airflow only 4lb.
Yes ordering mine off ebay soon so then can start playing which one to get 1st is the question

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2018, 11:39:15 PM »
Don't get your hopes up. lol You'll have fun reaching whatever end result there is. I look at it like this, if electric "turbos" actually provided results you would see them being used on many things.  It takes some serious rpm to generate lbs of boost, electric motor isn't going to get on the scale in my opinion. The technology is there for brushless motors, but the power required isn't sustainable in this application. I wouldn't push the old GC190 too hard though, remember it has a tiny timing belt and a plastic camshaft.
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Re: SUPERCHARGE YEEHAA
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2018, 11:57:40 PM »
Sounds like a lot of fun if the super charger works out for you.

Cheri & I were on French Creek yesterday which had about a 4 mph current. We had fun testing our skills seeing what the Mokaiís can do. Reminded us of our first test run on the Altamaha. 😁
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Re: SUPERCHARGE YEEHAA
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2018, 01:11:56 AM »
haha good on you chuck.
heres some sights to check out.
www.elsberg-tuning.dk this sight is comprehensive easy to understand all about superchargers and application for small motors.
YouTube; supercharge kit for50cc motorcycle Honda monkey
there is many others if someone is interested check out other supercharged sights
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2018, 08:51:00 PM »
Another site is.
b2belectricsupercharger.com

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 01:27:41 PM »
unfortunately all the supercharger electric units for sale have not really doing the job  looks like I shall be building one from smog pump or  get centrifugal and add electric motor at this stage b2belectricsupercharger.com has some great data on how too as www.elsberg-tuning.dk/supercharger.html.
For myself supercharger looks promising as all am after is extra 3mph and this is easily possible when using supercharger at full throttle and  30-60 second burst.
Elsberg tuning put one together on gx200 so there is hope for me yet hehe.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2018, 05:27:46 PM »
Might be easier to lose another 50 lbs..
That might put you at 90 pounds...soak & wet. Lol
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2018, 08:56:34 PM »
Haha too true.though if was easy would not be as interesting or fun,building electric supercharger already been done,i would like to build something that cost less than 5grand weigh less than 10lb battery included have plenty of room as do not use original fuel tank so can come out and stil have several inches that can move my seat forward as well to keep wieght an balance right for max hull performance.
Building electric powered smog pump looking promising though take time to do , for bit of experience after watching some improvements with leaf blowers on car motors and have a much higher flow/wndspeed/pressure than advertised web marketed brands of blower/supercharger, I looking at either a worx or ego 56volt brushless motor blower might give little more don't know.
I get a low pressure gauge and test then plumb it in and test run,in next couple weeks I need leaf blower any way so wont be total waist if no go
 The ego weigh bout 8lb has ip64 rating so splash ok is rated fairly high for a blower windspeed not quite as high as back pack model gotta av a go haha.
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Re: SUPERCHARGE YEEHAA
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2018, 11:11:35 PM »
Avago, your talking way up here and I'm way down there. Haha
You want to build a super charged leaf blower that blows smog? Lol

Can you post some close up video or pictures of your splash shield? Maybe some measurements too.

Some more pics of those huge catches (fish) would be nice too.
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