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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2016, 10:20:24 PM »
Awsome :)
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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2016, 12:04:37 PM »
Teaser pic!  :)  >:D  :)
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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2016, 03:15:12 PM »
100% improvement already!

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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2016, 08:42:15 PM »
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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2016, 02:44:42 PM »
Still waiting on some materials before I can get out on the water for testing, but here is what I did with the control box that will make life a little easier for me at least. What I did isn't necessary other than removing the joystick, but it would keep anyone from accidentally killing their battery since power is no longer needed to control the boat.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rppWQ1zR4mI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rppWQ1zR4mI</a>
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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2016, 01:57:26 AM »
Still waiting for the hull fitting for my water cooled muffler, but the steering/throttle conversion is installed and ready to test as soon as that fitting arrives and weather cooperates... rain the rest of the week of course.  :D

So instead of keeping everyone waiting in suspense, here is the conversion setup. The throttle linkage on the motor directly replaces the servo, the quick release bracket uses the screw holes on the connector bracket. Steering cable slides into the servo rod hole for plug and play installation. Cutting the steering slot in the hull and for the pass through tunnel between sections is the only major changes that have to me made, but are fairly easy to do and the cover plate cleans things up for a neat look.
The steering cable is quick release from cockpit and transom. Throttle cable quick release from motor only.
Looking forward to everyone's reactions.  \./8

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkZ1y8L_Mn0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkZ1y8L_Mn0</a>

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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2016, 11:19:01 AM »
I feel what you are doing is the only viable option for a reliable steering mechanism. Having an electronic servo for steering  in my opinion has no place on a so called go anywhere boat.  where ever possible the KISS principle should always be applied to anything  you rely on for outdoor travel and adventure, especially when it pertains many times to boat travel on unforgiving waters. This is where Mokai went terribly wrong in the new model; abandoning their own philosophy and engineering  principles. They gave up simple reliability for novelty and convenience for no apparent reason other than trying to go high tech to appeal to a completely different costumer base. Or maybe just because they simply never conceptualized any other simpler steering option for their take apart model.  So kudos to Tom for for these changes, upgrades and improvements!  (Especially for 2 absolutely essential additions; pump guard, and now steering upgrade.)               

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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2016, 12:45:55 PM »
Thanks, I'm just glad I can help everyone make the best out of these boats. Great post and well said, your insight is spot on.

Testing scheduled for Friday, can't wait to post the video results.  >:D
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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2016, 02:02:13 PM »
Great work on this mod.  It's so much simpler for a novice to operate and maintain without compromising the modularity if the EX-Kape.  Very cool!

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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2016, 02:22:23 PM »
Looking very good, Tom! Very impressed!

A few questions:
1) Connecting/disconnecting cables for boat disassembly?
Without seeing more details, it appears one has to separate the throttle cable in the area shown with the holding latch, and pop it off the carb link.
Then pull/retrieve the cable forward into the cockpit area, through the bulkhead feed-through?

The steering cable gets disconnected on the cockpit handle assembly and then fed back into the engine compartment?

2) Rear steering cable connection?
Can't quite make out what the interior part is on the rear bulk head, and therefore was wondering how you solved the sealing of the steering rod?

3) Control handle assembly side clearance?
I realize that you most likely tried getting this as close as possible to the right side wall. How much clearance is there between side wall and bracket?

4) Control box mounting?
I would assume that the control box could potentially be mounted just about anywhere where you can still get to the switches and other usable parts?

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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2016, 02:30:34 PM »
Looking very good, Tom! Very impressed! Thanks!

A few questions:
1) Connecting/disconnecting cables for boat disassembly?
Without seeing more details, it appears one has to separate the throttle cable in the area shown with the holding latch, and pop it off the carb link.
Then pull/retrieve the cable forward into the cockpit area, through the bulkhead feed-through? Yes, that is correct.

The steering cable gets disconnected on the cockpit handle assembly and then fed back into the engine compartment? The steering cable is quick release from both ends so it can be completely removed from the boat for easier storage.

2) Rear steering cable connection?
Can't quite make out what the interior part is on the rear bulk head, and therefore was wondering how you solved the sealing of the steering rod? My cable adapter slides into the old servo actuator rod hole and uses it's seals, once you take your servo out once you will understand.

3) Control handle assembly side clearance?
I realize that you most likely tried getting this as close as possible to the right side wall. How much clearance is there between side wall and bracket? Not sure what you mean, the handle/stick is a close fit and just rubs the slot a little, if that's what you are referring to. The back steering bracket will hit the paddle clip area of the hull brace, that clip lip gets trimmed back about 2".

4) Control box mounting?
I would assume that the control box could potentially be mounted just about anywhere where you can still get to the switches and other usable parts? You could mount it wherever there is a flat surface that the cable will reach.

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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2016, 08:21:18 PM »
Thanks for the explanations.
Understood.

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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2016, 09:51:36 PM »
This was from last week, but it will demonstrate more of what you were asking.  ;D

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNySh_vclUc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNySh_vclUc</a>
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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2016, 02:15:59 PM »
Cold and rainy today.... But I wanted to sit in the boat to see how everything felt. I like it, the stick is right at the perfect position to rest your arm without reaching or being cramped up. The kill switch on the left side is out of the way but accessible by elbow if you make it a point to use it that way. I put a guard over the on/off switch so it doesn't get bumped off like I've done so many times in the past. Now that I've rewired the controls, I'll just leave the switch on and plan to use the kill switch to shut down. Too easy.
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Re: Throttle and Steering Direct Control Conversion Kits
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2016, 04:19:22 PM »
Looks good Tom...How many improvements have you made to the ES-Kape ?